SPN: I Know What You Did Last Summer
Nov. 13th, 2008 09:59 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
superbadgirlThere are mild spoilers for next week in this.
Surprisingly, I'm not upset about the scene you know I'm talking about without going into any specifics for the reasons you might imagine. I'm irritated that it played out so that it's easy to interpret Ruby manipulating the situation and getting the blame. Because really? I can't find it in me to blame Sam - he was drunk, fucked in the head and obviously vulnerable. She threw herself on him, literally. And that's what makes me mad, even though I can't articulate it. It's the feminist in me hating the whole freaking set-up for the sex scene. I think I'm upset about not being upset with Sam. Not because he's the victim, as I see it, but because that means I have to blame a female character, and female characters have so much crap heaped on them already.
Oh, and reverse the genders in that scenario. It's icky from all angles. If a guy were being that aggressive with me and I kept saying no ... well, I'd probably still get the blame for "letting" it happen. *flashes back to getting mauled on a dance floor and having all these witnesses looking at me in disgust, not the much-bigger-than-me guy who was pawing me against my will and trying to jam his tongue down my throat*
Please, Sera Gamble and all SPN staffers, say no to sex scenes. I know you like the guys shirtless, and so do I, but EW.
The teaser for next week made it all the worse. "Gave into temptation"? Uh, sorry, but is this SexPN now? Apparently. I didn't see Sam giving into temptation so much as having it forced on him. And, okay, there's this girl they have to either kill or keep from being nabbed by demons, right, so naturally Dean's going to bed her. Because there's spare time for that. Toss in the "THE Dean" she gave him in this episode, and I'm already squicked for next week. She's a Dean groupie. I really hope that my irritation will prove to be 90% for The CW and the way they packaged up the teaser.
I will never break free of my hate/hate relationship with the CW.
I feel dirty.
Okay, you understand I had to get that off my chest, right? Sorry, it really went on longer than I intended it to.
I liked a good bit of this, actually. Poor Sam. It was nice (well, not nice, nice) to see what he went through after Dean died. He looked awful through much of it. I do think they could have spared us the necrophilia in lieu of showing Sam trying everything to get Dean out, because as it aired? It didn't actually show us Sam doing that other than the crossroads demon (that scene was really well done by JP, I thought). It showed us how messed up he was, poor thing, but why didn't they show us some of the searching for ways to save Dean, too?
Ruby accomplished the ultimate manipulation - making Sam trust her the way he trusts Dean. I don't care if she did save his life. It doesn't make her actions any less exploitative. I think it bothered me as much as it did Dean when they made him do the thank-you scene.
I wouldn't have minded a tad more about the Anna storyline. Hopefully we'll get that next week. Uh, you know, beyond the sex. (Notice how I'm mentioning the sex so much. Ugh.)
Oh, Dean. That's not fair, making Sam spill his guts when you won't spill yours. It'll come, though, I suspect.
Oh, boys, beaten to hell and gone by ... was it Alastair Dean called the demon? He had the special white eyes, too. Hmmm, but if Sam could exorcise Samhain, why couldn't he handle this guy. Not. Good. And now they don't have the knife anymore.
What is it with angels willing to kill first and ask questions later, and then yell at others for doing the same? Hmmm. I guess that shows what dire straits they're in. It does make me wonder why the dark side seems to have so much more tangible power. Not a happy thing to think about.
I think I'm going to have to let this one cool off in my brain for a while longer.
Surprisingly, I'm not upset about the scene you know I'm talking about without going into any specifics for the reasons you might imagine. I'm irritated that it played out so that it's easy to interpret Ruby manipulating the situation and getting the blame. Because really? I can't find it in me to blame Sam - he was drunk, fucked in the head and obviously vulnerable. She threw herself on him, literally. And that's what makes me mad, even though I can't articulate it. It's the feminist in me hating the whole freaking set-up for the sex scene. I think I'm upset about not being upset with Sam. Not because he's the victim, as I see it, but because that means I have to blame a female character, and female characters have so much crap heaped on them already.
Oh, and reverse the genders in that scenario. It's icky from all angles. If a guy were being that aggressive with me and I kept saying no ... well, I'd probably still get the blame for "letting" it happen. *flashes back to getting mauled on a dance floor and having all these witnesses looking at me in disgust, not the much-bigger-than-me guy who was pawing me against my will and trying to jam his tongue down my throat*
Please, Sera Gamble and all SPN staffers, say no to sex scenes. I know you like the guys shirtless, and so do I, but EW.
The teaser for next week made it all the worse. "Gave into temptation"? Uh, sorry, but is this SexPN now? Apparently. I didn't see Sam giving into temptation so much as having it forced on him. And, okay, there's this girl they have to either kill or keep from being nabbed by demons, right, so naturally Dean's going to bed her. Because there's spare time for that. Toss in the "THE Dean" she gave him in this episode, and I'm already squicked for next week. She's a Dean groupie. I really hope that my irritation will prove to be 90% for The CW and the way they packaged up the teaser.
I will never break free of my hate/hate relationship with the CW.
I feel dirty.
Okay, you understand I had to get that off my chest, right? Sorry, it really went on longer than I intended it to.
I liked a good bit of this, actually. Poor Sam. It was nice (well, not nice, nice) to see what he went through after Dean died. He looked awful through much of it. I do think they could have spared us the necrophilia in lieu of showing Sam trying everything to get Dean out, because as it aired? It didn't actually show us Sam doing that other than the crossroads demon (that scene was really well done by JP, I thought). It showed us how messed up he was, poor thing, but why didn't they show us some of the searching for ways to save Dean, too?
Ruby accomplished the ultimate manipulation - making Sam trust her the way he trusts Dean. I don't care if she did save his life. It doesn't make her actions any less exploitative. I think it bothered me as much as it did Dean when they made him do the thank-you scene.
I wouldn't have minded a tad more about the Anna storyline. Hopefully we'll get that next week. Uh, you know, beyond the sex. (Notice how I'm mentioning the sex so much. Ugh.)
Oh, Dean. That's not fair, making Sam spill his guts when you won't spill yours. It'll come, though, I suspect.
Oh, boys, beaten to hell and gone by ... was it Alastair Dean called the demon? He had the special white eyes, too. Hmmm, but if Sam could exorcise Samhain, why couldn't he handle this guy. Not. Good. And now they don't have the knife anymore.
What is it with angels willing to kill first and ask questions later, and then yell at others for doing the same? Hmmm. I guess that shows what dire straits they're in. It does make me wonder why the dark side seems to have so much more tangible power. Not a happy thing to think about.
I think I'm going to have to let this one cool off in my brain for a while longer.
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Date: 2008-11-14 04:13 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-11-14 04:53 pm (UTC)Ain't that the truth.
I guess I wouldn't have as much of a problem with the direction Kripke has gone with Sam if I were certain it would all end positively. It will, won't it? *looks imploringly at SBG*
I get that he's horribly broken, and that this thing with Ruby was really a result of some deep self-loathing and self-anger. I just want Sam to be a hero right along with Dean. Together. The snarky, us-against-the-world, evil-fighting team they've always been. I don't want one to be more important, more special, or gooder than the other, you know?
I love 'em both. Why doesn't everyone?
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Date: 2008-11-14 05:06 pm (UTC)Lord, I hope so. I think it would cleave me right in half if he made Sam turn completely and left him that way. Part of me wants Sam to be in a big showdown, on the right side even if he's using his powers, and it'll be so catastrophically bad that he'll fall down in a coma. You can't tell me the whammy he does isn't affecting his brain. He clutches at his head like it's going to explode sometimes. :(
And then he'll be in this grey place between life and death and God will finally step in and remove the demon influence.
Yes, that's the badfic in my head at the moment. It's either that or a Magic Reset Button.
I just want Sam to be a hero right along with Dean. Together. The snarky, us-against-the-world, evil-fighting team they've always been. I don't want one to be more important, more special, or gooder than the other, you know?
Yes, and I want it too. So much. I fear, though.
I love 'em both. Why doesn't everyone?
I have asked myself this question since I discovered I was being naive in thinking everyone else loved them both the way I did. I honestly don't get how anyone could say some of the things they say about either brother.