SPN: I Know What You Did Last Summer
Nov. 13th, 2008 09:59 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
superbadgirlThere are mild spoilers for next week in this.
Surprisingly, I'm not upset about the scene you know I'm talking about without going into any specifics for the reasons you might imagine. I'm irritated that it played out so that it's easy to interpret Ruby manipulating the situation and getting the blame. Because really? I can't find it in me to blame Sam - he was drunk, fucked in the head and obviously vulnerable. She threw herself on him, literally. And that's what makes me mad, even though I can't articulate it. It's the feminist in me hating the whole freaking set-up for the sex scene. I think I'm upset about not being upset with Sam. Not because he's the victim, as I see it, but because that means I have to blame a female character, and female characters have so much crap heaped on them already.
Oh, and reverse the genders in that scenario. It's icky from all angles. If a guy were being that aggressive with me and I kept saying no ... well, I'd probably still get the blame for "letting" it happen. *flashes back to getting mauled on a dance floor and having all these witnesses looking at me in disgust, not the much-bigger-than-me guy who was pawing me against my will and trying to jam his tongue down my throat*
Please, Sera Gamble and all SPN staffers, say no to sex scenes. I know you like the guys shirtless, and so do I, but EW.
The teaser for next week made it all the worse. "Gave into temptation"? Uh, sorry, but is this SexPN now? Apparently. I didn't see Sam giving into temptation so much as having it forced on him. And, okay, there's this girl they have to either kill or keep from being nabbed by demons, right, so naturally Dean's going to bed her. Because there's spare time for that. Toss in the "THE Dean" she gave him in this episode, and I'm already squicked for next week. She's a Dean groupie. I really hope that my irritation will prove to be 90% for The CW and the way they packaged up the teaser.
I will never break free of my hate/hate relationship with the CW.
I feel dirty.
Okay, you understand I had to get that off my chest, right? Sorry, it really went on longer than I intended it to.
I liked a good bit of this, actually. Poor Sam. It was nice (well, not nice, nice) to see what he went through after Dean died. He looked awful through much of it. I do think they could have spared us the necrophilia in lieu of showing Sam trying everything to get Dean out, because as it aired? It didn't actually show us Sam doing that other than the crossroads demon (that scene was really well done by JP, I thought). It showed us how messed up he was, poor thing, but why didn't they show us some of the searching for ways to save Dean, too?
Ruby accomplished the ultimate manipulation - making Sam trust her the way he trusts Dean. I don't care if she did save his life. It doesn't make her actions any less exploitative. I think it bothered me as much as it did Dean when they made him do the thank-you scene.
I wouldn't have minded a tad more about the Anna storyline. Hopefully we'll get that next week. Uh, you know, beyond the sex. (Notice how I'm mentioning the sex so much. Ugh.)
Oh, Dean. That's not fair, making Sam spill his guts when you won't spill yours. It'll come, though, I suspect.
Oh, boys, beaten to hell and gone by ... was it Alastair Dean called the demon? He had the special white eyes, too. Hmmm, but if Sam could exorcise Samhain, why couldn't he handle this guy. Not. Good. And now they don't have the knife anymore.
What is it with angels willing to kill first and ask questions later, and then yell at others for doing the same? Hmmm. I guess that shows what dire straits they're in. It does make me wonder why the dark side seems to have so much more tangible power. Not a happy thing to think about.
I think I'm going to have to let this one cool off in my brain for a while longer.
Surprisingly, I'm not upset about the scene you know I'm talking about without going into any specifics for the reasons you might imagine. I'm irritated that it played out so that it's easy to interpret Ruby manipulating the situation and getting the blame. Because really? I can't find it in me to blame Sam - he was drunk, fucked in the head and obviously vulnerable. She threw herself on him, literally. And that's what makes me mad, even though I can't articulate it. It's the feminist in me hating the whole freaking set-up for the sex scene. I think I'm upset about not being upset with Sam. Not because he's the victim, as I see it, but because that means I have to blame a female character, and female characters have so much crap heaped on them already.
Oh, and reverse the genders in that scenario. It's icky from all angles. If a guy were being that aggressive with me and I kept saying no ... well, I'd probably still get the blame for "letting" it happen. *flashes back to getting mauled on a dance floor and having all these witnesses looking at me in disgust, not the much-bigger-than-me guy who was pawing me against my will and trying to jam his tongue down my throat*
Please, Sera Gamble and all SPN staffers, say no to sex scenes. I know you like the guys shirtless, and so do I, but EW.
The teaser for next week made it all the worse. "Gave into temptation"? Uh, sorry, but is this SexPN now? Apparently. I didn't see Sam giving into temptation so much as having it forced on him. And, okay, there's this girl they have to either kill or keep from being nabbed by demons, right, so naturally Dean's going to bed her. Because there's spare time for that. Toss in the "THE Dean" she gave him in this episode, and I'm already squicked for next week. She's a Dean groupie. I really hope that my irritation will prove to be 90% for The CW and the way they packaged up the teaser.
I will never break free of my hate/hate relationship with the CW.
I feel dirty.
Okay, you understand I had to get that off my chest, right? Sorry, it really went on longer than I intended it to.
I liked a good bit of this, actually. Poor Sam. It was nice (well, not nice, nice) to see what he went through after Dean died. He looked awful through much of it. I do think they could have spared us the necrophilia in lieu of showing Sam trying everything to get Dean out, because as it aired? It didn't actually show us Sam doing that other than the crossroads demon (that scene was really well done by JP, I thought). It showed us how messed up he was, poor thing, but why didn't they show us some of the searching for ways to save Dean, too?
Ruby accomplished the ultimate manipulation - making Sam trust her the way he trusts Dean. I don't care if she did save his life. It doesn't make her actions any less exploitative. I think it bothered me as much as it did Dean when they made him do the thank-you scene.
I wouldn't have minded a tad more about the Anna storyline. Hopefully we'll get that next week. Uh, you know, beyond the sex. (Notice how I'm mentioning the sex so much. Ugh.)
Oh, Dean. That's not fair, making Sam spill his guts when you won't spill yours. It'll come, though, I suspect.
Oh, boys, beaten to hell and gone by ... was it Alastair Dean called the demon? He had the special white eyes, too. Hmmm, but if Sam could exorcise Samhain, why couldn't he handle this guy. Not. Good. And now they don't have the knife anymore.
What is it with angels willing to kill first and ask questions later, and then yell at others for doing the same? Hmmm. I guess that shows what dire straits they're in. It does make me wonder why the dark side seems to have so much more tangible power. Not a happy thing to think about.
I think I'm going to have to let this one cool off in my brain for a while longer.
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Date: 2008-11-16 05:04 am (UTC)I do crumbs at random for various shows, whenever the voices in my head get loud. They've been talking a lot about Supernatural recently.
Which is odd, because I only got the running commentaries for SG-1 when I started getting pissy over the direction (or lack thereof) for the show. I'm mostly liking Supernatural at the moment. I'm thinking it's more that I tend to get pissy when TPTB start throwing in random ship and/or sex for the hell of it and start ruining characters.
1) How many young and beautiful Jane Does are there lying in comas in the world...with no apparent physical damage and absolutely no one knowing who they are? One is, I think, too many.
I've been wondering how long she'd been in a coma. Perhaps she was a generic hooker new to the trade killed by a pimp, but was in a coma long enough to heal. But I wonder how long a Jane Doe with no one to pay the bill would be kept alive.
TPTB made a point to make her a Jane Doe. Why? My only guess it's yet another way to distance the idea of "demon in someone else's body" by not giving the previous owner a name.
2) when you wake up out of a coma in front of hospital personnel, I don't think you'll get a death certificate.
And it can take weeks to get a copy of a death certificate, even when the person actually stays dead. Sometimes funeral homes will take care of that for the family, but it's not like one was involved with this death.
At best, she'd only be able to have documentation of flatlining as the plug was pulled. Which begs the questions:
(1) Did she help the owner "move out of the apartment" to trick Sam into thinking things were done properly?
(2) Did the host's soul actually depart? We only have Ruby's word for it. Totally not trusting anything she says, no matter how many times TPTB try to force the issue down our throats.
3) The shortened timeline. It just doesn't work. Ruby apparently had a very short trip to hell, despite being sent "far, far away".
I took that comment to mean she was sent to a really deep, dark section of The Pit reserved for people who pissed Lilith off. Timeline differences also get a bit of handwave because they've said time move differently. Dean was in Hell for months, but apparently the ordeal felt more like years.
This season has me feeling so torn. The overall storyline has been pretty good, but they've gone off with too many comedic episodes and too much attention on the potential sexin'.
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Date: 2008-11-16 06:39 am (UTC)The way they played it, you really do either have to assume Ruby's not lying (ha!) or assume when a person's body dies, her soul gets booted. Like, instantly.
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Date: 2008-11-16 06:11 pm (UTC)I know the reality is finding the right time between being absolutely certain someone's dead (not in a state that just looks dead) and having them be a rotting corpse, but we don't know what the "reality" is in this construct.
They made a point of showing Ruby coming back in a "dead" body instead of just showing up at Sam's door with a death certificate (which she wouldn't be able to get anyway), so I'm assuming they did this to push the "Ruby's good, we promise!" agenda.
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Date: 2008-11-16 10:02 pm (UTC)Heh. I'm still more inclined to read everything she does as "Ruby's self-serving, we promise!"
I'm really curious (and mostly dreading) how they're going to get Dean to sleep with Angel Girl and not make it skeevy. Because the parallel they're hammering at means it can't be skeevy (Dean sleeps with good girl, Sam sleeps with bad girl - subtle). And, no, I find nothing romantic about a dude sleeping with a woman because it's her last night on Earth.
Hmmm.