Ah, yes! That's really what my post should have been about the other day, because that's the point I was trying to get across. I don't ever want romance on the show, but I'm not totally against recurring characters. These ones were brought in for all the wrong reasons, IMHO.
Yes. It's that age-old "fiction has to make sense, where real life can be absolutely crazy" thing. Writers have to make sure the world they're creating is actually workable, and they have to have solid, explanable reasons for what they do and who they bring on.
Maybe SPN's PTB have solid, explanable reasons for all this tripe, but it's too late now. They've already established something I don't buy, and no amount of explaining is likely to make me change my mind.
That whole scene was maybe a minute or two, but it said a lot. We got some insight into Sam, some insight into Dean, saw some brotherly interaction, saw how resourceful and persistent they can be, and saw how they get this information.
Yes, I miss that so much. Such small things can sometimes make a great difference.
I agree. destina mentioned that it seemed OOC for Dean to lie to Ellen like that, and I agree with that.
Dean's OOC with Jo, that's for sure. And he's OOC with Ellen as well. Both are reason enough for me to dislike the characters...because I don't want to dislike Dean.
This smacks of Daniel with Vala.
I bet they get paid a lot more, too! *g* And I get it, too. Toolman and I sometimes had four or five different jobs between us--and he was in the military which required him to spend two nights a week at the base back then, standing duty (going out on cases) while also working full-time at the base on week days and pumping gas on weekends or painting houses or whatever. It wasn't easy, but we did it.
It's damned exhausting at times (like the weeks when it seems every stupid tenant locks themselves out at midnight or later), but you do it and you carry on. I'd be a lot more chipper about it if I actually enjoyed the work. ;)
LOL I admit I'm glad that at least one other person feels this way. Everyone else seems to love Ash.
Ash as a character is amusing...but I don't like his purpose at all.
Bwah! You probably saw that I wrote almost the same thing. LOL
It boggles the mind. The woman clearly wants to control her daughter and prevent her from living the hunter lifestyle. Her husband's been dead for 10 years, FCOL. She should have moved her daughter outside that influence right away if that was a concern. Duh.
I agree with you about the rest, too. I really hated that. It seems like they're trying to make John even more of a "bad guy" so that it will make us have sympathy for Ellen and Jo. It's not working for me.
Ugh.
hehe I wasn't totally bored, but then...I'm not usually riveted by the plots of any of the SPN episodes. This episode didn't give me much of what I watch the show for, and the little it gave was off or just wrong, for the most part.
Part of it might have been that Criminal Minds did a "lock the pretty girls in an underground box" episode on Wednesday night, and they did it SO much better.
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Date: 2006-11-03 05:49 pm (UTC)Yes. It's that age-old "fiction has to make sense, where real life can be absolutely crazy" thing. Writers have to make sure the world they're creating is actually workable, and they have to have solid, explanable reasons for what they do and who they bring on.
Maybe SPN's PTB have solid, explanable reasons for all this tripe, but it's too late now. They've already established something I don't buy, and no amount of explaining is likely to make me change my mind.
That whole scene was maybe a minute or two, but it said a lot. We got some insight into Sam, some insight into Dean, saw some brotherly interaction, saw how resourceful and persistent they can be, and saw how they get this information.
Yes, I miss that so much. Such small things can sometimes make a great difference.
I agree. destina mentioned that it seemed OOC for Dean to lie to Ellen like that, and I agree with that.
Dean's OOC with Jo, that's for sure. And he's OOC with Ellen as well. Both are reason enough for me to dislike the characters...because I don't want to dislike Dean.
This smacks of Daniel with Vala.
I bet they get paid a lot more, too! *g* And I get it, too. Toolman and I sometimes had four or five different jobs between us--and he was in the military which required him to spend two nights a week at the base back then, standing duty (going out on cases) while also working full-time at the base on week days and pumping gas on weekends or painting houses or whatever. It wasn't easy, but we did it.
It's damned exhausting at times (like the weeks when it seems every stupid tenant locks themselves out at midnight or later), but you do it and you carry on. I'd be a lot more chipper about it if I actually enjoyed the work. ;)
LOL I admit I'm glad that at least one other person feels this way. Everyone else seems to love Ash.
Ash as a character is amusing...but I don't like his purpose at all.
Bwah! You probably saw that I wrote almost the same thing. LOL
It boggles the mind. The woman clearly wants to control her daughter and prevent her from living the hunter lifestyle. Her husband's been dead for 10 years, FCOL. She should have moved her daughter outside that influence right away if that was a concern. Duh.
I agree with you about the rest, too. I really hated that. It seems like they're trying to make John even more of a "bad guy" so that it will make us have sympathy for Ellen and Jo. It's not working for me.
Ugh.
hehe I wasn't totally bored, but then...I'm not usually riveted by the plots of any of the SPN episodes. This episode didn't give me much of what I watch the show for, and the little it gave was off or just wrong, for the most part.
Part of it might have been that Criminal Minds did a "lock the pretty girls in an underground box" episode on Wednesday night, and they did it SO much better.