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[superbadgirl]

Just got into it about the immigration demonstrations. I dunno, I know it's more of a grey issue than what I see, but the reform doesn't really sound so dreadful and wrong to me. I mean, I'm all for people seeking a better life, but shouldn't there be rules and shouldn't there be ramifications if rules aren't followed? I don't like the idea of turning down people for immigration, but at the same time we have to worry about overpopulation, etc., etc.

*shrugs*

I don't feel strongly enough FOR illegal immigrants to want to stop traffic during rush hour.

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[superbadgirl]

It boggles my mind, frankly, to read these kinds of articles and statements. This one from here: Immigrant Boycott

"I want my children to know their mother is not a criminal," said Benita Olmedo, a nanny who came here illegally in 1986 from Mexico and pulled her 11-year-old daughter and 7-year-old son from school to march in San Diego. "I want them to be as strong I am. This shows our strength."

Because, well...you ARE a criminal if you came here illegally. As a rule, things that are ILLEGAL are often considered criminal, are they not?

I understand those here without proper authorization are upset to be told they're, well, breaking the laws of the country they wish to live in, but the simple fact is that they are. I'd be upset, too, but as I've said before - you live with the consequences of your actions. If you cannot wait for proper authorization/paperwork or you simply are turned down or don't even bother trying to make a legitimate start here and come anyway, then it's you who has to face the results if/when you're caught. It may not be pretty, but it's certainly not unreasonable, IMO.

[moonshayde.livejournal.com]

Amen.

[gategrrl.livejournal.com]

I believe also, that to get into the US, you have to be sponsored. I tutored a Russian Jewish family that came into the US via a sponsored Church program (I think it was a church).

If you want to start out legally, you need a sponsor. The usual way to get a sponsor has been for one member of a family to cross into the US, then get the paperwork going for naturalization, then ship the relatives in afterward with the first person over as the sponsor. It's in a grayer area than a bunch of folks who pay a coyote to sneak them over en masse.

The hugest turnoff that I'm feeling from these illegal immigrants is
A) the huge sense of entitlement
B) the ASSUMPTION that because this is the land of the free and free speech, that legal residents and citizens will become sympathetic to them as a mass movement.

I may feel sympathy, even sorry for, some of the individual's stories I hear on NPR, for instance. And some of these people have genuinely heartbreaking stories. BUT - their little girl or boy wouldn't have been murdered on a train going through central America if they hadn't left their country of origin in the first place. It's not the 1900's anymore. Ellis Island is a museum now. It's a different era.

[brihana25.livejournal.com]

The hugest turnoff that I'm feeling from these illegal immigrants is
A) the huge sense of entitlement

They're allowed to earn money they're not supposed to earn.
They don't pay the taxes the rest of us do to support the country (because if they paid, their bosses would get caught breaking the law by hiring them in the first place).
Their children go to school for free, eat breakfast and lunch for free... supported by those taxes that they don't pay.
They exercise the right to assembly and protest, which is not guaranteed to them, with impunity.

And they're think we're wrong if we get pissed off about it and try to stop them.

Entitlement? Understatement of the year.

B) the ASSUMPTION that because this is the land of the free and free speech, that legal residents and citizens will become sympathetic to them as a mass movement.

The sad part is... look at just how many of "us" are stupid enough to do it.