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superbadgirl) wrote2007-06-23 09:57 am
superbadgirl) wrote2007-06-23 09:57 am
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More on strange and annoying nicknames
If Dean Winchester has referred to Sam Winchester as "kiddo*" on the television screen, I've missed it. Maybe he did it once or something, which would be easy to block out for me, but given the number of times I have seen that in fanfiction it would appear Dean calls Sam that all the time (and I rarely venture into reading SPN fic). Every time I see it I want to send feedback begging for the writer to please stop using that word. It seems, to me, to perpetuate this idea that Sam's a weak little boy who needs coddling and protection.
H/C stories can be written without infantalizing one of the characters. Really.
At least when writers abused "Danny" in SG-1 fandom, Jack actually did use that a couple of times and so there was a (somewhat sketchy, if you ask me) foundation. That got to a point where I would really have to back out of a story if I read that more than, say, five times in a couple of pages. There was also one author who did a similar thing as "kiddo." Everything would go along swimmingly, and then Jack would suddenly call Daniel, Sam and Teal'c "kiddies." WTF, man. W.T.F.
Back to SPN, I've now been thinking about other horrific characterizations. Sam has got teary-eyed a bit in the show. It's canon. So has Dean. This, however, does not mean that they'll cry at the drop of a hat. Sam thinking about a puppy being left alone because its owner got dead would not make him turn into a quivering mass of tears. It really wouldn't. Sam's a sensitive soul (or at least he was), sure, but there are limitations. I would ask people just think for a minute or two before they make either Sam or Dean burst into tears.
Funnily enough, the same thing happened in SG-1 fandom as well. There are certain stories out there that are SO smarmy it makes me cringe, stories in which Daniel and Jack are such weepy, emotional wrecks I do not recognize them at all.
I suppose it can all be chalked up to different strokes for different folks.
And now I must go because apparently I'm 2 hours behind on working for The Man (frankly, I find that bogus) and have to play catch-up. While I'm sweeping and weeding and scrubbing, I'm hoping to devise a better plan to avoid the mailman. He's persistent, that one.
*perhaps the "kiddo" thing is personal. Apparently my paternal grandfather called all of us "kiddo" and when I was about 2 1/2 or 3 I started talking more and insisted that he stop calling me that because my name wasn't Kiddo, it was SBG. My mom said that was adorable, everyone oohed and ahhed and my grandfather continued to call me kiddo, bless his heart. He died when I was 4.
H/C stories can be written without infantalizing one of the characters. Really.
At least when writers abused "Danny" in SG-1 fandom, Jack actually did use that a couple of times and so there was a (somewhat sketchy, if you ask me) foundation. That got to a point where I would really have to back out of a story if I read that more than, say, five times in a couple of pages. There was also one author who did a similar thing as "kiddo." Everything would go along swimmingly, and then Jack would suddenly call Daniel, Sam and Teal'c "kiddies." WTF, man. W.T.F.
Back to SPN, I've now been thinking about other horrific characterizations. Sam has got teary-eyed a bit in the show. It's canon. So has Dean. This, however, does not mean that they'll cry at the drop of a hat. Sam thinking about a puppy being left alone because its owner got dead would not make him turn into a quivering mass of tears. It really wouldn't. Sam's a sensitive soul (or at least he was), sure, but there are limitations. I would ask people just think for a minute or two before they make either Sam or Dean burst into tears.
Funnily enough, the same thing happened in SG-1 fandom as well. There are certain stories out there that are SO smarmy it makes me cringe, stories in which Daniel and Jack are such weepy, emotional wrecks I do not recognize them at all.
I suppose it can all be chalked up to different strokes for different folks.
And now I must go because apparently I'm 2 hours behind on working for The Man (frankly, I find that bogus) and have to play catch-up. While I'm sweeping and weeding and scrubbing, I'm hoping to devise a better plan to avoid the mailman. He's persistent, that one.
*perhaps the "kiddo" thing is personal. Apparently my paternal grandfather called all of us "kiddo" and when I was about 2 1/2 or 3 I started talking more and insisted that he stop calling me that because my name wasn't Kiddo, it was SBG. My mom said that was adorable, everyone oohed and ahhed and my grandfather continued to call me kiddo, bless his heart. He died when I was 4.
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I think the scene in the pilot you refer to is where John picks up Dean when he comes in to the nursery?
"""Dad: {Walks into room} Hey dean.
Dean: Daddy! {Runs and jumps into his father’s arms}
Dad: Hey buddy! What do ya think? You think Sammy’s read to toss around a football yet?
Dean: No, daddy.
Dad: No?
Mom: You got him?
Dad: I got him. {Turns off the light} Sweet dreams, Sam. """"
So that one is "buddy" - but could easily have been "kiddo" at that age. :))
In Scarecrow when Sam answers Dean's phone the conversation goes -
"""OHN: Sam, is that you? (SAM sits up in bed.)
SAM: Dad? Are you hurt?
JOHN: I’m fine.
SAM: We’ve been looking for you everywhere. We didn’t know where you were, if you were okay.
JOHN: Sammy, I’m all right. What about you and Dean? (At the motel, DEAN is waking up.)
SAM: We’re fine. Dad, where are you? (DEAN sits up in bed.)
JOHN: Sorry, kiddo, I can’t tell you that.
SAM: What? Why not?
DEAN: Is that Dad? """
So it seems John calls Sam kiddo even now.... but once doesn't make it a habit which is where the annoyance usually comes in.
I think in the show Dean is the "pretty" crier, the tears roll but his face usually remains controlled. Sam though is a real blubber - which is another adorable difference between the two of them. At John's funeral Sam looked about 12 years old - so sad... ::sniff:::
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""""""JOHN: All right. You know the drill, Dean. If anybody calls, you don’t pick up. If it’s me, I’ll ring once and then call back. You got that?
YOUNG DEAN: Mmhmm. Don’t answer the phone unless it rings once first.
JOHN: Come on, dude, look alive. This stuff’s important.
YOUNG DEAN: I know, it’s just—we’ve gone over it, like, a million times, and you know I’m not stupid.
JOHN: I know you’re not. But it only takes one mistake, you got that? (DEAN nods.) All right, if I’m not back Sunday night?
YOUNG DEAN: Call Pastor Jim.
JOHN: Lock the doors and windows, close the shades, and most important—
YOUNG DEAN: Watch out for Sammy. (He looks at YOUNG SAM, who is watching television.) I know.
JOHN: All right, if somethin’ tries to bust in?
YOUNG DEAN: Shoot first, ask questions later. (JOHN puts a hand on his son’s shoulder.)
JOHN: That’s my man. (He leaves the motel room. DEAN shuts the door behind him and locks it. He continues to watch SAM.)"""""
Dean is being treated with responsibility here reflected in the language...
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