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SG-1: Window of Opportunity

I watched this last week, but I was stuck in a time loop and couldn't post about it ... ba-dum-bum.

I enjoy some aspects of this episode. Frankly, it does always puzzle me it makes the "fan favorites" list. It's cute, but it's not THAT cute, you know? More on this later.

The opening shot/painting/digital whatever is beautiful.

Ah, Daniel being all Daniel-y and getting shot for it. I always wondered if that was a shoot-to-kill shot or just a stunner. Jack's vague discomfort with the subject later in the infirmary does nothing to clear that up.

"Maybe he read your report?"

Poor Jack and Teal'c slowly going nuts while everyone else remains oblivious. I lol'd at the last briefing, when Jack sums it all up succintly and ends with an "I don't think we need to see the doc...". Hammond's sitting there with his mouth agape. And then they end up in the infirmary with a penlight in the eyes and a thermometer in the mouth.

The ending was poignant, and for a time I was always bothered by Jack being the one to relate to Malachi, when Malachi's sitch is more directly parallel to Daniel's. But then I grew up and realized Daniel's going into this cold, and Jack isn't.

The big things that bother me: Jack letting Daniel get plowed over. Ha-ha, funny! Except it really came across as mean-spirited to me. :(

And the kiss. Now, I'm not knee jerking from a "Sam/Jack is gross!" standpoint. Honestly, I'm not. I find it wholly inappropriate and stupid, but not because it was, at the time, a blatant play to the shippers. What bothers me intensely about the whole thing is Jack taking advantage of Sam. She's not going to remember that. He make physical overtures to a woman who would have no memory of it, simply because he could and that is ALL kinds of ooky. It's not precisely like a man giving a woman a roofie and having sex with her, her choice removed ... and yet it's precisely like that. I have no idea how none of the PTB saw it this way. If they were asked now, they probably still wouldn't. I find that disheartening to say the least.

The lecherous, sly look afterward and at the very end shot of the episode really didn't help, and left me feeling very confused about Jack as the hero of the story. *shudders*

It ruins the episode for me, and is ultimately why I could never vote it a favorite.

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Yeah, the kiss always bugged me for what it said about Jack's ethics... or lack thereof.

I've always been saddened that they *NEVER* followed up on the fact that it was Daniel who observed that you could do anything without repercussion. That is one of the most fascinating character insights in the entire series and it was completely ignored.

It's just not something I ever thought Jack would do. It was sleazy. Gross. Certainly not something a hero figure should do.

I wonder what Daniel would do? It is interesting that he thought of it, while Jack and Teal'c, who were stuck day after day, never once considered the possibilities.

WWDD? :-)

Find a way to collect dirt on Kinsey?

Dirt on his erstwhile peers? (Oh, I do need to finish my revenge fic.)

Poke that those eleventy artifacts emitting energy readings that they don't dare poke at? :-)

Sleep? LOL!!!

Find out who is *really* responsible for screwing up the cataloging in the artifact rooms.

Finally get to nail Jack in all sorts of interesting places throughout the SGC (and discover who the resident homophobes are in the process).

With you on all but the last one, which would only work if Jack was also not looping. Or it'd be just as problematic as the Jack/Sam kiss.

Only if he was doing it without Jack's consent.

"So, Jack, here's the deal - I'm in a time loop and you're not. Every ten hours it resets and I'm the only one who remembers what happened during that time. That means we can do it all the places I've always wanted to and you haven't because you'd never be able to be stand being in there again when the general's there. Whaddya say?" :-)

Hmm, that would be kind of mean to Jack, though. Even with consent, there'd be no way for him to have those things as fond memories where Daniel would.

Unless they fucked up and did something on that last turn, when they didn't loop. Then Jack would be dishonorably discharged and Daniel fired. :(

Why, yes, my glass IS half empty today!

LOL!!!! See, Jack doesn't *want* to remember. :-) He's just doing it for Daniel. :-):-)

Half-empty? Hon, I'm thinkin' you smashed that puppy against the wall. :-)

Not really. You keep adding qualifiers!

Eh. I'm just on day three of a yucky headache. It tends to make me more dour than usual. And I'm usually not Miss Mary Sunshine anyway. ;)

Miss Mary Sunshine is boring.

She also writes Mary Sues. :-)

Bummer on the headache.

I have always enjoyed this episode - yes the kiss bothered me - but the crashing of Daniel - not so much because Jack knew 1) Daniel wouldn't remember it and 2) he really didn't get hurt and after he does catch him before it happens.

It also has one of my favorite moments: Jack asks what kind of Archeologist carries a gun when confronting Malachi and Daniel is like - Hello! and waves his gun around.

But what I really love is Peter DeLouise's commentary. Like how they glued the fruit loops to the spoon so they would be the same in every take. And some of the other funny insights about repeating the same info over and over.

I guess I just love Time Loop stories because Mystery Spot is one of my favorite SPN episodes too.

Hey, I'm all for a good time loop. I just cannot forgive the roofie moment. It horrifies me every single time I see it.

What bothers me intensely about the whole thing is Jack taking advantage of Sam. She's not going to remember that. He make physical overtures to a woman who would have no memory of it, simply because he could and that is ALL kinds of ooky.

All of that is exactly what has always bothered me about that.

I also was not fond of Jack allowing Daniel to get knocked over multiple times. I never thought that was funny except maybe the first time I saw this episode and then only because it was one of the first episodes I saw, and I didn't really know all the characters well, so that whole thing sort of went over my head.

This episode has some great moments, but it actually became one of my least-liked episodes the more times I saw it.

I also was not fond of Jack allowing Daniel to get knocked over multiple times.

The idea Jack would let it happen over and over and over doesn't speak very well of him, if you ask me. :(

My dislike for the episode also grows each time I see it. I can appreciate the good moments - Daniel being all linguist-y, Sam being all whatever she is and in character. But then comes the ending and I get grossed out again.

Ditto.

I want to love this ep, I really do. But the kiss strikes me just like it does you. And I thought it was cute when Jack sorta looked down Carter's blanket in the episode where they think they're 70 years in the future but it's really Hathor playing a nasty trick, and Carter didn't have any clothes on yet. This was different. Not innocent like that. Calculated.

And yet that didn't bother me as much as the sly look at the end. Without that, I could maybe have talked myself into thinking the kiss was ill-advised, but hey, he was going bananas at the time. The look ruins that.

Also agree with you about it being mean that he keeps letting Daniel get run over. And while it didn't offend me, I didn't find it funny that Teal'c started every loop getting hit in the face. It just gives me sympathy pains.

And yet that didn't bother me as much as the sly look at the end. Without that, I could maybe have talked myself into thinking the kiss was ill-advised, but hey, he was going bananas at the time. The look ruins that.

Oh, yeah. I don't understand how the writers could see nothing wrong with that and rethink it. Well, I can't until I remember who the writers are.

Also agree with you about it being mean that he keeps letting Daniel get run over. And while it didn't offend me, I didn't find it funny that Teal'c started every loop getting hit in the face. It just gives me sympathy pains.

I don't get why Teal'c wouldn't just step to the side after maybe two door-slams. It doesn't make sense he'd let that keep happening to himself when it was easily preventable.

I think it's one of those things where it was SUPPOSED to look like it couldn't be prevented (like, it was already happening AS the loop reset), but they didn't quite film it right.

There's, uh, so much of that in TV that I get really annoyed because I can never tell if it just looks stupid because they failed at it, or if it's the character actually being stupid and I should pick up on that as a plot point.

I think it's one of those things where it was SUPPOSED to look like it couldn't be prevented (like, it was already happening AS the loop reset), but they didn't quite film it right.

Yeah, that wasn't apparent to me.

I agree with this, for me the comedy was just a little too far on the cruel side - made me wince a couple of times and I felt like I shouldn't have been laughing at that, which isn't a kind of comedy I enjoy.

Ah, yes, then "THE kiss". God, how I hated what that said about Jack and how he looks at Carter - you're right it was lecherous and sneaky and not how I like to think of his relationship with a subordinate who works under his command.

However I have to add the extra layer here and that was my utter disappointment with Sam's reaction to it. No, Jack wasn't really acting himself, but that kind of "sweep her off her feet/dip and kiss" is only really romantic between two consenting/wanting partners.

I hated how Sam just "melted" into it as though it was everything the little girl had been pining for all her life. It just wasn't the strong woman and confident officer I always thought Sam was, the one who had a great working and personal friendly relationship with all her team.

*MY* Sam would have kneed the grabby bastard in the balls and phoned Janet to sedate him.

TPTB though just went with the "simpering little woman" swooning at "Sir" at long last noticing her.

I lost every bit of love and respect for Sam right there and then and I don't think I ever got over it - funny how I can sort of forgive lecherous Jack and not swooning Sam, I really don't know how that happened. :((

Ah, yes, then "THE kiss". God, how I hated what that said about Jack and how he looks at Carter - you're right it was lecherous and sneaky and not how I like to think of his relationship with a subordinate who works under his command.

It's not how I like to think of his relationship with ANYone.

I hated how Sam just "melted" into it as though it was everything the little girl had been pining for all her life. It just wasn't the strong woman and confident officer I always thought Sam was, the one who had a great working and personal friendly relationship with all her team.

I've never seen it that way, too overwhelmed with the wrongness of it all in the first place. I know I wouldn't be thinking, "Oh, at last, my tru wuv comes!" while he's accosting me in front of EVERYONE.

about "the kiss" who wouldn't be tempted? and after who knows how long in the loop, he went a little crazy.

Temptation = one thing.

Acting on it = unconscionable.

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