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superbadgirl ([personal profile] superbadgirl) wrote2006-04-12 07:18 pm
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Personally?

I think that in a discussion about Vala on Stargate when someone brings up the previous misdeeds of any member of SG-1 in comparison to her actions, the debate is then forfeit just like that one rule about invoking Nazism.

Because it's just insane.
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[personal profile] kaleecat 2006-04-12 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
So are you saying that people try to defend Vala's actions, saying she's okay and should be all accepted, by bringing up previous misdeeds of core SG-1? ::confused which obviously means I need more chocolate::

But then I'm the person who got all annoyed b/c the new season promo I saw the other night had mostly Mitchell, Vala and Landry in it. If i knew how to do captures I'd make a "real" promo.

::grumble grumble::
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[identity profile] aizjanika.livejournal.com 2006-04-12 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
:::grumbles too:::
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[personal profile] kaleecat 2006-04-12 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
*snort* apples & oranges. True, sg-1 are no angels but we've, in a sense, lived through that past & know what happened. With Vala she told the story of her past. Big difference.

Of course its about telling us everything & shoving down our throats when it comes to new characters instead of doing, oh, the creative thing & letting us discover the character's worth over time in relation to the true stars of the show.

I'm tellin' ya, it's not SG-1 anymore. It's All About the Newbies. (Aren't they pretty and shiny and FUN?)

EX-ACTLY. sheesh, didn't learn a thing from the whole JQ thing. Its also about aren't they pretty & shiny & fun and they're "better" because they look like those people on some other show. Thats what burns me about it, like the character credibility should carry over to SG1 or something. I certainly have not watched, or tried to watch, for 9 years because of those other people.

::wanders off still grumbling::
(friday nights are good for classic sg1 dvd nights you know)

[identity profile] captain-tiv.livejournal.com 2006-04-13 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
So are you saying that people try to defend Vala's actions, saying she's okay and should be all accepted, by bringing up previous misdeeds of core SG-1? ::confused which obviously means I need more chocolate::

Yep. Some do.

Me, I find Vala entertaining and dynamic mostly due to the acting of Claudia Black. That doesn't absolve Vala of her crimes anymore than it would anyone else. She's done some pretty bad things that she's never had to pay for (yes, a comparison to other SG1 members could be inserted here).

Maybe it's human nature to say, "This person did that, oh, but by comparson so-and-so did this and wasn't punished for it?" I don't know. Normally, when I get pissed at a character, I'm pissed at that character for that reason regardless of what the other characters have done or what the consequences were.

Unfortunately, I think more comparisons will be heard. We've got another season coming.

[identity profile] khek.livejournal.com 2006-04-13 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
That probably depends on how much you want to twist things to suit your purposes... (not you, you, but any you)

[identity profile] captain-tiv.livejournal.com 2006-04-13 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
And there's the crux. Just about everything is twistable. :)
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[personal profile] nialla 2006-04-13 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
Me, I find Vala entertaining and dynamic mostly due to the acting of Claudia Black. That doesn't absolve Vala of her crimes anymore than it would anyone else. She's done some pretty bad things that she's never had to pay for (yes, a comparison to other SG1 members could be inserted here).

I love Claudia's work, but really, Vala doesn't "fit" into the show as it is... er, was. As a guest character, she could shake things up. I didn't care for Vala all that much, but the early eps this season were a bit better. I don't hate her, but I can't see what she has to offer as a regular.

I'm afraid the show has gone beyond casting changes and will be beyond recognition now. As far as watching the show goes, it's already moved into the "watch it if you remember" category, and that's more to keep up with fandom than anything. I don't even watch the Friday night repeat now, I watch USA's repeats of House instead. It's nice to find writers who don't insult my intelligence, and seem to not only know about slashers, but loves us. :)